Spill The Spirituality

A Good Ending: Celebrating Four Years of Spill the Spirituality

Hope & Anchor Season 4 Episode 109

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Hey Y'all,

After four remarkable years, 129 episodes, and over 1.3 million listeners, Trey and Jaz sit down together - from their own homes - to say a heartfelt farewell to Spill the Spirituality. This final episode is not a sad montage (no candlelit interpretive dance either, despite Trey's best efforts). It's a celebration - of friendship, of extraordinary guests, of the conversations that changed both hosts from the inside out.

They reflect on the guests who left a lasting mark, the unlikely friendship that sparked all of this, and what comes next as they step into a new season with curiosity and open hands.

"It's a brave thing to start something new — and it can be a brave thing to have a good ending too."

Timestamps

  • 0:00 — Welcome & the announcement: this is the final episode
  • 2:08 — How Jaz accidentally ended up on a Methodist podcast (she thought it was something else entirely)
  • 6:58 — Trey's origin story: the lockdown Facebook Live "Graham Norton show" that planted the seed
  • 8:30 — Why this podcast matters: celebrating difference rather than weaponising it
  • 9:39 — Standout guests: Mike Bates (counter-terrorism operative) and Jamie Jones-Buchanan
  • 10:22 — Mike's story: solo rowing the Atlantic — and the 100 dolphins
  • 13:08 — Rowan Williams at Cheltenham Literary Festival: whales in dry rivers
  • 15:23 — Kelechi Okafor: ancestral trauma, embodiment, and twerking in the studio
  • 18:10 — Nadia Bolz-Weber: fangirling, prison ministry, and the woman with "savage" tattooed on her face
  • 22:20 — Looking back over all 129 episodes; Jas's "gateway drug" into spirituality
  • 25:54 — Jaz opens up: her painful history with church, a toxic marriage to a vicar, and finding her way back
  • 28:35 — The DM that started it all: how Jas reached out — and Trey was already writing the same message
  • 31:00 — Trey's personal spiritual shift: learning to lead alongside others, not alone
  • 35:24 — The surprise Pentecost Sunday sermon — and being "preacher adjacent"
  • 39:58 — Jaz's vision for what's next: a sofa on the street in Edinburgh (and Milton Keynes)
  • 41:27 — Trey's next season: rest, silence, and resisting the urge to start another project immediately
  • 44:40 — Final thank yous to 1.3 million listeners, and what comes next

All 129 episodes remain available wherever you listen. Thank you for journeying with us. Until our paths cross again — peace.

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